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Post by Admin - Joy Lucas on Jul 5, 2021 8:59:45 GMT
Feels as if the abdomen would burst and has a state of rapid alternating sides.
No other clues! 😉
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Post by Admin - Joy Lucas on Jul 6, 2021 6:07:32 GMT
The answer comes tomorrow the 7th
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Post by becksnyc on Jul 6, 2021 15:23:17 GMT
And we may reply with possible remedies?
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Post by Admin - Joy Lucas on Jul 6, 2021 16:03:07 GMT
And we may reply with possible remedies? of course, please do, that's the idea
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Post by becksnyc on Jul 6, 2021 16:49:44 GMT
Lac-c has feeling the abdomen would burst while walking (Allen, Clarke), erratic pains, alternating sides (Boericke).
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Post by gordana on Jul 6, 2021 18:48:43 GMT
Feels as if the abdomen would burst and has a state of rapid alternating sides. No other clues! 😉 Differential diagnosis - Abdomen; bubbling sensation; bursting: ant-c arg carc coloc(2) cupr hell nat-m phos TARAX(3) x-ray. - Abdomen; movements; bubbles, as from bursting: coloc tarax(2). - Abdomen; anxiety; burst, as if it would: am-m bov.
Coloc, William Boericke: Sensation as if stones were being ground together in the abdomen, and would burst. Tarax, Clarke: Grumbling and movements (sudden sensation) in abdomen, as if bubbles were bursting in it. Ammonium mur, Hering: Heaviness in lower abdomen, as from a load, with anxiety as if abdomen would burst. Bovista, me : I could not find in the provings, nor in the guidelines, nor in the materia medicas, why Bov is included in this rubric, but I concluded it's because it has a pronounced effect on the abdominal area, all parts, and pain and sensations are often 'bursting', with much flatulence and distension.
Of course, Lycopodium can always be shortlisted, although it is not in the mentioned rubrics.
I'm not sure how should be understood 'a state of rapid alternating sides': - they often change sides, as if upset, due to restlessness: roll over/tossing about, or - sensations/pains often change sides in terms of switching from one to another (left to right, right to left).
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Post by becksnyc on Jul 6, 2021 19:10:04 GMT
Crocus sativus, symptoms rapidly change sides (Phatak). Croc. found in "Generalities, Pain; bursting, splitting, driven asunder" (Allen & Bonninghausen) but not in rubrics specific to abdomen, although distension & fullness are there, but those rubrics have many other remedies in higher grade.
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Post by becksnyc on Jul 6, 2021 19:13:24 GMT
Feels as if the abdomen would burst and has a state of rapid alternating sides. No other clues! 😉
"I'm not sure how should be understood 'a state of rapid alternating sides': - they often change sides, as if upset, due to restlessness: roll over/tossing about, or - sensations/pains often change sides in terms of switching from one to another (left to right, right to left)."
I was thinking she meant pains change sides, but now you've got me thinking! This is fun!
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Post by gordana on Jul 6, 2021 19:22:31 GMT
It will turn out that I (as usually) complicate things, and that you understood well at first. But, I can say in my defense, that English is not my native, so it may not be a complicating, but I want to be sure that I understood well. It's always good when it's fun.
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Post by Admin - Joy Lucas on Jul 6, 2021 19:55:39 GMT
Some good work here 🤗
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Post by Admin - Joy Lucas on Jul 6, 2021 19:59:04 GMT
All I would offer is this, as I will give the answer tomorrow
Which of these 2 symptoms is the stronger, the strangest?
Symptoms always have to be graded in a case and probably, when I give the rx I was thinking of you might say there are still a number to choose from. But that’s what we do in case taking, eventually we have to choose.
But yes, just some fun
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Post by becksnyc on Jul 6, 2021 20:47:27 GMT
CR has 210 remedies in "Generalities, Alternating Sides," but only ONE in "succession, in rapid"---lac-c. One remedy strikes me as SRP, yes? Since you recently mentioned Robert's "As If" repertory, his bursting rubrics under abdomen added more details to the possible remedy's sensations/locations, etc. Burst, abdomen would :- Am-m., Bar-c., Carb-v., Chim-mac., Cop., Hyos., Lyc., Nit-ac., Sanic., Spig., Valer. Burst, when coughing, abdomen would :- Anac. Burst, by flatus, abdomen would be :- Coff. Burst, intestines would :- Coloc., Lyc., Pip-n. Burst, from load, abdomen would :- Am-m., Lac-c. Burst, he were bound up and would :- Lyc. Burst, at menses, abdomen would :- Ovi-g-p. Burst, in abdomen, ulcer would :- Laur. Burst, before stool, abdomen would :- Ars. Burst, when walking, abdomen would :- Lac-c., Lyc. Burst, in hypogastrium, bubbles formed and :- Tarax. Burst, out through abdomen, intestines would :- Squill. Burst, in right lower abdomen, bubbles were forming and wanted to :- X-ray. Burst, if pressed, a distended sac in abdomen would :- Med. In CR, as mentioned by gordana above, "Abdomen; anxiety; burst, as if it would: am-m bov." Am-m. is also among the 210 in Alternating Sides, in grade 3. I'm sticking with lac-c as first choice, with Am-m. for second, if one is allowed to hedge one's bets? :-)
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Post by gordana on Jul 6, 2021 21:36:56 GMT
I think that 'state of rapid alternating sides' is of greater importance. Honestly, the first remedy I paid attention to was Lac-c, so I do not dare to bet with you, becksnyc but agree and make a contribution: - Generalities; pain; one-sided; goes to other side and there agg.: ARG-N(3) FERR(3) IRIS(3) LAC-C(3) LYC(4) MANG(3) NAT-M(3) NIT-AC(3) SUL-AC(3) TUB(3) uro-h. - Boger's general analysis 7; alternating states, effects, sides etc.: agar(2) aloe(2) AMBR(3) ant-c(2) ars(2) bell(2) berb(2) CANN-S(3) CIMIC(3) COCC(3) croc(2) ferr-p(2) glon(2) IGN(3) iris(2) LAC-C(4) lach(2) LYC(3) phos(2) PULS(3) sep(2) SULPH(3) xan(2) zinc(2). - Boger's general analysis 7; crosswise, across, side to side etc.: bell(2) berb(2) CHEL(3) CHIN(3) ferr(2) hell(2) kali-bi(2) kali-m(2) LAC-C(3) sep(2) sil(2) SULPH(3) verat(2). - Generalities; pain; wandering; rapidly: acon-c AESC(3) BELL(3) CAUL(3) con dios IGN(3) KALI-BI(3) KALI-S(3) KALM(3) LAC-C(3) MAG-P(3) MANG(3) PHYT(3) plumbg PULS(3). - Abdomen; spongy sensation in, hypochondria, alternating sides: lac-c. My first choice is Lac-c, and Lyc as a second. Although, I would not completely given up on Coloc and Tarax.
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Post by Admin - Joy Lucas on Jul 7, 2021 6:53:23 GMT
Fantastic comparisons and thinking Lac caninum is the remedy. A lot of the milk remedies have alternating sides, for obvious reasons, but Lac caninum should always come to mind first especially with the ‘rapid’ inclusion Thanks for contributing 😀
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Post by gordana on Jul 7, 2021 7:29:27 GMT
Thank you for your tireless work, for not giving up in sharing knowledge. Thank you for being my Teacher!
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