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Spasms
Aug 12, 2021 13:42:17 GMT
Post by becksnyc on Aug 12, 2021 13:42:17 GMT
This rumination is, in part, from a discussion on another group about a vintage combination remedy. (This is not an endorsement of combination remedies). Are spasms on a spectrum, increasing in intensity from vibrations/trembling to cramping, spasms and finally, convulsions? (How do these symptoms relate, if at all) Can we talk about differentiating common spasm remedies? (Using all important totality, of course...) And about the mental/emotional state that accompanies a "spastic" state? Maintaining causes for (disease states, lactic acid buildup, and etc). And anything else that seems pertinent to the topic. Thanks
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Spasms
Aug 12, 2021 14:10:07 GMT
Post by Admin - Joy Lucas on Aug 12, 2021 14:10:07 GMT
This rumination is, in part, from a discussion on another group about a vintage combination remedy. (This is not an endorsement of combination remedies). View AttachmentView AttachmentAre spasms on a spectrum, increasing in intensity from vibrations/trembling to cramping, spasms and finally, convulsions? (How do these symptoms relate, if at all) Can we talk about differentiating common spasm remedies? (Using all important totality, of course...) And about the mental/emotional state that accompanies a "spastic" state? Maintaining causes for (disease states, lactic acid buildup, and etc). And anything else that seems pertinent to the topic. Thanks I would offer that there will be a variable in intensity and a spasm is often referred to as cramping, but I would separate spasms from convulsions, although convulsions can be spasmodic but that is descriptive and not the same. Repeating acute episodes put this into a sub chronic state for many. If a maintaining cause can be identified then it has to be removed. A spasm can occur anywhere where there is a muscle, including the heart. Causes - dehydration, overuse, poor diet, allergies, lack of blood supply, stress, disease states such as diabetes, thyroid issues, anaemia, brain function issues etc. As always it is vital that any underlying serious condition is identified Accompanying emotional and mental sx would have to be taken into account but would be highly individualised. There are so many hundreds of rx that can have spasms as a presenting sx but if you want to concentrate on just a few we can do that, maybe by choosing certain body parts.
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Spasms
Aug 13, 2021 16:25:34 GMT
Post by Admin - Joy Lucas on Aug 13, 2021 16:25:34 GMT
CR links convulsions with spasms, with 703 remedies main ones
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Spasms
Aug 14, 2021 11:24:11 GMT
Post by becksnyc on Aug 14, 2021 11:24:11 GMT
Thank you for the explanation. Wow, so many remedies! What do you think of the vintage combo? Do you agree those are the "top" spasm remedies available back then? I have a particular case in mind, but will need time to pull the info together.
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Spasms
Aug 14, 2021 12:17:13 GMT
Post by Admin - Joy Lucas on Aug 14, 2021 12:17:13 GMT
Thank you for the explanation. Wow, so many remedies! What do you think of the vintage combo? Do you agree those are the "top" spasm remedies available back then? I have a particular case in mind, but will need time to pull the info together. I can’t even contemplate a combination remedy for any case whatsoever and the rx in the vintage mix are an eye watering dangerous concoction. Yes they all have spasms in the sx picture especially oenanthe and ignatia but at best you’d hope they didn’t do anything and the dosing is also appealing. There would have been many more high ranking remedies back then as there is now. Really look forward to case presentation.
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Spasms
Oct 31, 2021 22:01:33 GMT
Post by becksnyc on Oct 31, 2021 22:01:33 GMT
Research into nuances of spasm continue, as I have time. Re: your comment above on separating spasms from convulsions, CR often combines the two or joins variations like "convulsive" with "spasmodic." I have a mental picture of a convulsion and can see that a convulsion could have spasmodic qualities. How do they differ, please? Just to help me clarify. I wonder if you could help me medically differentiate these terms which are found in CR: Quivering Trembling Twitching Vibrating, external I have followed the MM to the source on the above (mostly in reference to the spine), but the original sources don't always elucidate. Thanks so much!
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Spasms
Nov 1, 2021 9:56:29 GMT
Post by Admin - Joy Lucas on Nov 1, 2021 9:56:29 GMT
I would suggest, from my expereince that 'spasm' is a more short lived action even if its repeated over and over it will be seen to have a lack of continuation, whereas a convulsion begins and ends in different lengths of time and can go through a myriad of actions as it performs out, i.e. it can change its appearance throughout. Generally one has to go with what the client tells you. If they are epileptic they will either use that word or describe their convulsions (which might have a spasmodic phase). If someone suffers from a limb pain for example they might say the pain comes in spasms but won't describe that as a convulsion. But just to confuse, a pain can be described as spasmodic and convulsive but that doesn't mean to say that convulsive pain is an actual convulsion. Adverbs and adjectives I guess.
Quivering - isn't a word used much? I would think of this as being an internal sensation but apprently not - rapid shaking, so can be anywhere. Agaricus, for example will have this during an epileptic phase and they can show this from fright as well
Trembling - much easier to understand and usually external but can be internal as well (the latter being more curious). Externally will be easy to observe. Think of the spider remedies and many many more - depends on the disease state - but if external often is a constant state
Twitching - again easy to observe and usually seen as a jerking action and either constant like a tic or in phases in circumstances when it cannot be controlled. So many rx again and often accompanies 'lancinating' pains which cause the twitch
Vibration - I can only see this as an internal sensation, electric like but more like a buzzing rather than a shock sensation. Can you say more about the external feeling.
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