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Post by becksnyc on Jul 8, 2021 13:47:06 GMT
In Complete Repertory there is one remedy listed: conium Please, can you elaborate on the Conium state, its effect on the CNS or any other comments related to this symptom? Do you agree that this response to noise is only found with this remedy and is thus SRP? The reference in CR for this rubric is to "Drugs in Insanity" in the Homoeopathic Recorder, 1913. (see screenshot)
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Post by Admin - Joy Lucas on Jul 8, 2021 15:03:11 GMT
Maybe tomorrow I will write something, unless someone else does
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Post by Admin - Joy Lucas on Jul 8, 2021 17:32:17 GMT
In Complete Repertory there is one remedy listed: conium Please, can you elaborate on the Conium state, its effect on the CNS or any other comments related to this symptom? Do you agree that this response to noise is only found with this remedy and is thus SRP? The reference in CR for this rubric is to "Drugs in Insanity" in the Homoeopathic Recorder, 1913. (see screenshot) View AttachmentI have some time now so will offer something. Firstly, should this even be represented in a repertory? It is only one case and it isn't entirely obvious how the remedy Conium was chosen and with no details you could almost dismiss it. However, we do know that Conium is exceptionally over sensitive to noise of any kind regardless of whether the case is one of insanity or mental issues. Also to back up the initial sx there is also recorded that Conium can shriek in the morning on waking, again a case of mental problems (this time in an infant) so this is a sx that gains momentum somewhat but it appears more the case when there is delerium involved. Because there is considerable poison in this rx I imagine that this is where the sx originate - i.e. brain disturbance but whether they are proving sx or not I cannot say. Mental effort is almost impossible in Conium especially if the person is elderly and worn out but that is very different to delerium. There are many sx in Conium that correspond to delirious states. Insanity isn't delerium though. One can become insane for numerous reasons and do we ever get to treat many people who are so called insane? Not often I imagine. But we might get the chance to treat someone who is at the beginning of the process if we are good enough to recognise the signs. One other instance of when we might see this state is in one who has cancer. Conium has a big affinity to cancerous states and if it is a cancer that has metastisised to the brain then you could begin to see the Conium sx picture developing along these lines. There will be a lot more in Sankaran's plant book with comparisons with other remedies in the Umbel group. I should also add that 'suddenness' is also a key feature of Conium
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Post by becksnyc on Jul 8, 2021 19:37:15 GMT
Fascinating. Thank you for the analysis. When you say an affinity for cancerous states, do you place it in the cancer miasm? Re: your comment "should this even be...in the repertory," what would be the minimum threshhold for something to be added, in your opinion? Several cured cases? Provings with multiple provers experiencing the symptom? So if a patient told you that any unexpected noise caused them to scream involuntarily, how would you personally repertorize? My possible rubrics: And the remedies for the above rubrics: I can add re: Conium, that I know of a case of life-long Trichotillomania that was cured in one dose. I have not found Conium listed under desire to pull hair in any of my repertories.
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Post by Admin - Joy Lucas on Jul 8, 2021 20:25:11 GMT
It is generally accepted that Conium is within the cancer miasm.
I am always calling for a Provings only repertory and materia medica. Not only would it make our job so much easier but it would also make obvious that the homeopathic community needs to keep on doing Provings. We use so many rx that haven’t had a proving.
I will add a bit more tomorrow with regards your points.
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Post by Admin - Joy Lucas on Jul 9, 2021 8:18:19 GMT
Re: your comment "should this even be...in the repertory," what would be the minimum threshhold for something to be added, in your opinion? Several cured cases? Provings with multiple provers experiencing the symptom? So if a patient told you that any unexpected noise caused them to scream involuntarily, how would you personally repertorize? My possible rubrics: Attachment Deleted And the remedies for the above rubrics: Attachment DeletedI can add re: Conium, that I know of a case of life-long Trichotillomania that was cured in one dose. I have not found Conium listed under desire to pull hair in any of my repertories.[/quote] One thing I worry about is digital repertories are becoming merged as materia medica and I personally prefer a distinct differecne between the two although I can understand an argument for the merger in some ways. Minimum requirement for me is that entries have to come from provings. no-one can ever have access to ALL cured cases so their addition can be somewhat confusing. oversentivie to sudden noise and even fear from sudden noise would be my choice of rubrics and possible easily startled - fear is acceptable because the outcome is a shrieking which suggests fear or at least it isnt a passive response. With regards the hair issue if you think that every sx has a cause, effect and consequence you'd probably find Conium heavily weighted in other rubrics that caused someone to pull out their hair and Conium does have a high affinity to alopaecia as well as certain mania states. The Cause and effect sx would be more important to repertorise than the presenting end state. The is why we have to ask "why?" all the time during case taking.
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Post by becksnyc on Jul 9, 2021 12:28:00 GMT
Discussion this morning on FB about CR being divided or filtered by provings, clinical cures, themes, etc.
I appreciate the comment about asking "Why?" I'm always trying to find a balance between observing the symptoms and trusting that the symptoms describe the disturbance of the vital force and my eternal penchant for analysis.
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Post by Admin - Joy Lucas on Jul 9, 2021 12:52:04 GMT
Maybe Rajesh will comment on the developments of CR drajeshr
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Post by drajeshr on Jul 13, 2021 17:27:19 GMT
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Post by drajeshr on Jul 13, 2021 17:29:16 GMT
Re: your comment "should this even be...in the repertory," what would be the minimum threshhold for something to be added, in your opinion? Several cured cases? Provings with multiple provers experiencing the symptom? So if a patient told you that any unexpected noise caused them to scream involuntarily, how would you personally repertorize? My possible rubrics: View Attachment And the remedies for the above rubrics: View AttachmentI can add re: Conium, that I know of a case of life-long Trichotillomania that was cured in one dose. I have not found Conium listed under desire to pull hair in any of my repertories. [/quote] one cured case is enough to add to repertory , it just needs to be available for public reading somewhere thats all
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Post by Admin - Joy Lucas on Jul 13, 2021 17:36:59 GMT
cured cases (in my opinion) should at least be coloured somehow as not everyone looks at the source of inclusion but the huge problem remains of what happens to all the cured cases of any remedy that the repertory builders do not get to know about.
Gradings or ranking of remedy status should come from provings as we rarely get to know the details of the case that allows for a remedy to be included
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